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Day Twenty-Five - Being Brutally Honest

July 27, 2010

I decided that I would write for a second day in a row for two basic purposes; First, to talk about a subject I know more then just a couple people will be interested to read about (because I wish I had known more about it before I arrived at Ft. Lee) and two, to essentially vent. I know I don't get particularly personal in my blogs, with the exception of my feelings of pride, excitement, nervousness, etc... But today's blog will be less about the experience in general, and more about MY experience, so please excuse the small selfish departure.

Before I begin, I want to thank everyone who is adding their two cents regarding issues of additional training, Reserve/National Guard issues, and experiences beyond JAOBC. Clearly, I do not have any first hand experience with these issues, and thus am not the most qualified person to answer some of the questions forwarded to me. I like that the "comment" section of my blog has turned into somewhat of a discussion, and I encourage it. I know I had a TON of questions before showing up at Ft. Lee, and so I encourage anyone in the classes subsequent to mine to post questions, and either I, or another individual will answer them.

Ok, so what am I talking about in the first paragraph? The last two days have been particularly frustrating because they have marked the notification of the dreaded "Remedial Physical Training." I'm going to call it "Totally Awesome PT" (TAPT), but needless to say it isn't that awesome (at least at first) to find yourself mandated to attend. There are two ways that this happens; First, you fail at least one exercise in your APFT; AND/OR Second, you fail your weigh-in/Body Fat Percentage Test.

This whole experience has essentially dug up the lingering childhood memory of being a heavy kid, and all of the insecurities attached to it. I know that I am not "fat," so please don't think I'm looking for sympathy, and I generally believe myself to be in damn good shape (I did run a 13:32 2-mile), but you can't help but doubt those assumptions when you find yourself being forced to exercise by the Cadre an additional two times a week.

I guess I should start from the beginning, as I've kind of gotten ahead of myself. The who reason that TAPT exists is to ensure that the Army's Soldiers are physically fit according to its bright line measurements. In this case, you prove that you are "in shape" by meeting the minimum requirements for the APFT AND complying with the Height/Weight Standards, and if you don't meet those, then the Body Fat Percentage Standards. Well, when I said I didn't "crush" the PT test last week, what I really meant to say is that I didn't pass it, as I failed the sit-up portion. So, even though I may have scored a 210 out of 300 which IS a passing score (you need above a 180), you still need to make the minimums for each event and I didn't. So that alone requires me to do TAPT. I can't argue with this qualification, the only problem I have with it, is the fact that the push-ups and sit-ups are subjectively counted, and though I don't have an issue with the way mine were counted last week, issues still could and do arise.

The Height/Weight and Body Fat Percentage Standards are something that I don't like at all, but I have to admit, I understand their purpose. The Army has clearly delineated a scale that sets a maximum weight that a soldier must be UNDER based on his/her Height and Age. So for example, I am 27, and I stand (according to the Army scale) 6'1''. The Army schedule states that I should weigh no more then 200lbs. I weigh 233 (again, according to the Army). I don't like these bright line weights because it does not take into account ones body type or musculature, but I do understand the rationale for having a single standard. So, what happens if you don't make weight? You're then "taped" to ascertain your Body Fat Percentage. Now, this process I do take issue with. The only measurements that are used, are the circumference (in inches) around you stomach at the height of your belly-button, AND the circumference of your neck. From there, the Army has a scale, again relative to your age, that then provides a body-fat percentage. There is no way that these measurements can be even remotely accurate. According to my measurements, I have 27% body fat, which means nearly a third of me is fat. In other words, there is 69lbs of fat all over me, and I take serious issue with that statement. But again, the Army loves its bright line standards, and as always I understand the need for them.

So what happens, when, like me, you fail both the weigh-in and the body fat measurement? You get TAPT AND you are counseled by Cadre that you are now on the Army's watch list (the actual provision I can't seem to locate at the moment, but there is a corresponding Army Regulations that provides for this). This means that to keep from have some kind of administrative action taken, I have to begin to lose 3-8lbs a month until I either make weight or meet the body fat percentages. To be totally honest, this is demoralizing, particularly for someone who believes himself to be in very good shape, and quite frankly, NOT fat. It is particularly difficult for one who has always been insecure about his weight and thought he had it under control.

However, there is a silver lining... Actually, several silver linings. First, if you really think about it, extra PT is not that bad of punishment and if you can get over your overbearing pride/ego, you'll probably enjoy it. Second, who doesn't want to get into shape, and having such strict standards to meet actually provides extra motivation. Third, and most importantly, YOU'RE NOT ALONE, in fact, a huge group of my classmates either failed the PT Test or Failed their weigh-in/Body Fat Measurements, and we are all there to support each other. I should also mention that the Cadre is incredibly supportive as well, and are very good at reassuring all of us that with a little hard work, we should be able to meet the stringent Army standards, and the Cadre is going to be right there to help us out. Remarkably, what would normally be such a dismal prospect, becomes an incredible bonding opportunity, where yet even more camaraderie is created.

My battle buddy and I are going so far as to put each other on the so-called Paleo Diet (i.e. eat like a Neanderthal). After our first TAPT session we went to the grocery store and bought all kinds of healthy/primitive foods that cavemen would have eaten, and we've come to an agreement to support each other throughout the process. Essentially, what began as a pity party has essentially turned into an amazing opportunity, and at this very moment, I'm excited to see what happens. My battle buddy and I have also agreed that we would NOT drink until we reached both goals, so I'm hoping he beats me there, so I don't have to wait for him before I can celebrate. I guess these are the sacrifices we make for our friends, and I have plenty of them around me here, they're support is worth more then words can articulate.

Okay, that was my selfish blog entry. Since there were no questions waiting for me, I don't have anything else to write. Until next time, thanks for reading and please post questions, there are no stupid ones, if you have the question, I'm willing to bet 90% of your classmates do too.

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  • Andy

    Jul 27, 2010 11:31 PM

    Pat- Keep up the good work and thank you for your blogs/posting. It gives me a great insight as to your experience.

    I am very surprised by the Army's definition for being fit. It seems like they should also throw in the BMI index to keep in line with the poor calculation. In my personal training days, we would measure body fat with calipers and a 3-location test. Even this provides error as different people can get different results depending on how hard they pinch. To get a more accurate body fat reading, it is advised to use a 6-pinch location and measure three times each spot (averaging the 3 pinches on each spot to get your number). You can also use electronic scales that measure body fat percentage.

    It seems their strategy is exactly what you have come to learn...make the best opportunity out of each situation even though it may not be fair. Physical fitness is a huge part of the Army so the standards must be tough.

    And for those who don't know Pat from his college days, he was an outstanding (probably still is) water polo player. He might not look like the typical water polo player, but he played at a D-1 level and if I am not mistaken, was captain his senior year. He can also out paddle anyone anywhere on his sea kayak or surf board.

    Just gos to show there are many different types of "being in shape" and the Army has their specific definition.


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  • Dave R.

    Jul 27, 2010 11:31 PM

    Buck up, bro. Speaking as a dude who can't do 5% of the physical aspect of what you are doing, I daresay you got it covered. You're a law grad who is now an officer in the JAG corps, for chrissakes. How could your ego be bruised given what you've accomplished? Keep up with the extra PT if that is what's needed, and you got the right attitude that it's hardly a punishment. By the way, we're all proud of you.


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  • Jennifer

    Jul 28, 2010 2:26 AM

    As someone whose body specs AND age prevent any legal-military service, I can say I sympathize. How often will they "check in" on you once you begin service? Is there an annual physical?


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  • Kim

    Jul 28, 2010 9:21 AM

    Patty-O, should I call the army up and tell them how you can kick the butts of most everyone else when it comes to physical activity? You kicked my butt hard core when we went to cross-fit! I know you'll succeed in your goals and I'm glad you have the support of your battle buddy. I have a friend who has done the paleo diet for some time now and loves it - it is definitely a great way to eat for a guy: tons of meat, all the time! Best of luck and enjoy it!


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  • SGarnerLaw

    Jul 28, 2010 10:52 AM

    Lt. Sandys-

    I want to thank you for your dedication to your blog and giving us a dose of your daily life experiences. It is more than helpful to those of us who hope to travel the same path that you are currently on; I only wish that there were other JAG students doing the same.

    As a prior service soldier I totally understand where you are coming from. During my tour it was a normal thing for me to get taped, not because I was “fat”, but because of my muscular build. Now I was a bit more vertically challenged (5’10), but the tape, in my case, worked in my favor. I have a big neck (18) so I always made tape. However I do believe that if my neck was smaller, I would have been on remedial PT as well, regardless of the fact that I pass each event of the PT test, each time that I’ve been tested. What I did do after that was make sure that I did lots of exercises focused on the upper-back, traps shoulders and neck.

    Either way you choose to get through it, you will “GET THROUGH IT”. Remember just because you’re an officer, doesn’t mean you’re not human, and doesn’t mean that you will not encounter some of the same issues that enlisted soldiers often go through. Sometimes you just have to laugh through the frustration, and sometimes you need to vent. So if you feel the need to vent, do so and “drive-on”.

    “Success is not appreciated if there’s not struggle to get there.”


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  • Daniel Ray

    Jul 28, 2010 12:05 PM

    Pat,

    Dude, thanks for sharing this. It shows you are a real human being, and we need more people like yourself in this world.

    As far as being heavy, I have always been skinny and have struggled to gain wieght, BUT I realize and tell people I know to love their body type. People are different--variety is good. Some were built to run long distances, some were built to sprint, some were built to pick up large things and throw them, etc. etc.

    The subjectivity of the pushups and situps is something that concerns me. As I get closer to the start date for the 183rd, I have started focusing more and more on pushups, situps, and running. Having said that, I don't necessarily feel like my fitness is improving as I improve in these areas. I don't lift many weights, I find that weights are bad in the long run for the human body. I hike, run, box, rock climb, use kettlebells, do Chi Gung (to fix injuries), and do various other things to improve my fitness.

    Try applying the 80/20 rule (Pareto Principle) to everything you do (training, learning, diet, etc.). I find it to be a pretty good measure and way to stay balanced. If you don't know about the 80/20 rule, wikipedia it and check it out. Basically, it states that 80% of your results come from 20% of your efforts, and the additional 20% of results come from the other 80% of your efforts. What you then focus on are the areas producing the most results, try to duplicate those actions, and try to avoid the actions producing the 20% of results.

    Ok, some easy stuff to "digest" regarding weight loss/fat loss. First of all, I haven't tried the Paleo diet, but I hear great things about it. Check this blog out on the Paleo diet if you haven't done it yet: http://freetheanimal.com/

    Another great plan for losing weight is found on Tim Ferriss's four hour blog. I've incorporated bits and pieces of the articles on human performance found on this blog. Here is a link to an article on fat loss, which works: http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/04/06/how-to-lose-20-lbs-of-fat-in-30-days-without-doing-any-exercise/

    Check out the concepts in that article. I always give myself at least 1 "pig out" day per week, and that tends to keep me from plateauing with my fat loss. Also, I agree that losing fat through dieting doesn't mean you have to eat less, it just means you have to watch the percentages of the kinds of foods you are eating. I've continued to trim down by eating more of certain things, and less of others.

    Finally, drink tons of water. I drink water at room temperature. My theory, which many people disagree with, is that the warmer water/foods that I eat keep my metabolism running hot. People argue that cold water requires your body to use more energy to heat back up. I agree with that, but I think that cooling it down slows your metabolism over the course of the day. This is just my theory. I drink at least 1 gallon per day.

    Good luck! This was a helpful blog post as usual! Keep going!

    Best,

    Daniel Ray


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  • susy sandys

    Jul 28, 2010 3:45 PM

    Wow! Patrick, you have so much support here. You can do this.. You can do anything. I'm going to look into the Paleo diet for home.


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  • Mark

    Jul 28, 2010 4:45 PM

    Ah yes. The ridiculously inaccurate and unrealistic Army height/weight table charts and BF tests. I know them well. :-) I was active duty many moons ago and had to get taped every month. Never failed one, but one of the guys who really was fat, but had a huge neck, and always came in with a lower BF percentage than me. Burned me up. Maybe they will change these archaic standards and methods one of these days.

    Daniel I don't agree at all about strength training. I think, overall, resistance training is more beneficial than running (although you should do both). You will absolutely increase your strength, including pushups and sit-ups, if you incorporate proper weight training into whatever else you're doing.

    I've been lifting since I was 15 and it has been a tremendous benefit. My metabolism has slowed down quite a bit as I've gotten older, but the muscle I carry has kept my BF down. Muscle uses fat for energy. Increased muscle is one of they key ways to drop BF and keep it off.

    Also, if you're having problems with things like pushups, proper lifting will absolutely help.

    I am a true believer. :-)


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  • Daniel Ray

    Jul 28, 2010 7:54 PM

    Mark,

    I see what you are saying. I don't disagree with you, but "done right" is a discussion that far exceeds the scope of this article. Besides, I use kettlebells and rock climb, which are both intense forms of strength training.

    I just don't put much faith in weights alone. The movements are too static. I used to be quite the weightlifter (6'0", 200 lbs in college with hardly any body fat). I definitely was doing it "right" from the western perspective and could easily throw down a set of 100 pushups. I trimmed down during law school and post-law school. About a year and a half ago, I weighed 180, and was doing lots of weights and running, then I stepped into a boxing ring. My world changed. A guy 4 inches shorter than me and weighing 140 put a thumpin' on me. I realized that all my "strength" from doing curls, squats, ridiculous amounts of pushups, and tons of pull-ups didn't transition to well in a fight. At the time I was also running 7 miles several days a week around 50 minutes.

    After incorporating boxing, I've trimmed down to around 170 and fight at 165.

    I too started lifting around 15. I'm not going to go so far to say weights have no merit, they do. Most people are them wrong. Further, I don't think body fat % is necessarily a good indicator of health. A good friend of mine in the Navy is the most deceptively in shape person I've ever met, and he will be the first to admit he is chunky--I mean 210 on a 6ft frame with chicken legs. However, he can take 3 months off from running, and then just randomly go out and pump out 3 miles at a 6:30 pace. I have to intensely train to get my mile time down that low for that distance. Again, different body types are built for different things.

    Weight training will increase your strength as far as lifting weights is concerned. Proper kettlebell training will exponentially increase your strength, core strength, and even your cardio health. For example, check this video out:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRpbM9nzDcM

    So to sum up, I don't disagree with you Mark. We might actually be saying similar things, just looking at the answer from different angles. However, I think cross-training is really where it is at. This is probably why training programs like P90X and the Insanity workout have become so popular--cross training gives results.

    Best,

    Daniel


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  • Mark

    Jul 29, 2010 3:01 PM

    Daniel I don't really disagree with anything you say.

    I looked at the clip. Good workout. I didn't really see anything different from old school dumbell work, powerlifting (cleans, etc.), and plyometrics. All of that can be accomplished in the gym.

    Lifting can be static if you only do compound movements. That's not the way I train. Although I do squats, deadlifts, bench, etc. every week, I include a lot of dumbell work, and single arm/leg exercises, which don't appear to be different than the kettlebells.

    Regarding core strength, IMO squats and deadlifts do as much or more than any exercise out there to improve core strength. I think they're the two best exercises in the gym.

    There is also the issue of supplements, which I'm a big believer in too, but that's the subject for another thread. :-)

    I wasn't trying to imply that lifting or low BF equals good health. I agree with your comments in that regard. Good health is a combination of many factors, including diet, exercise, sleep, etc.

    On the running thing, I absolutely hate it. I'll never run a 6:30 pace in this lifetime. I'm much slower. :-)

    I agree with you that cross-training is ideal.


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  • Daniel Ray

    Jul 29, 2010 3:23 PM

    Mark, I agree totally with your assessment. Especially the diet, exercise and sleep part.

    Like I said, we are saying the same thing, just looking at it from different angles.

    Here is a powerlifting article you will probably enjoy:

    http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2008/12/18/pavel-8020-powerlifting-and-how-to-add-110-pounds-to-your-lifts/

    I haven't tried that for exercise yet, but I plan to do a phase of it at some point in the future.

    Cheers,

    Daniel


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  • Mark

    Jul 29, 2010 5:25 PM

    Daniel I agree we're pretty much saying the same thing. Thanks for the link. Even though I'm pretty old school when it comes to lifting, I'm always looking for and open to new ideas.


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  • Eric

    Jul 30, 2010 1:45 AM

    1LT Sandys - Let me just say that you're doing great with the blog. As someone who will most likely be in the 183rd class, I enjoy the free preview. Keep working hard and keep your chin up. Also keep in mind that sometimes things in the military, especially in initial training, are done as mental challenges. For instance, you probably were not allowed to watch others complete the pushups and sit-ups because there probably was some "undercounting". This is not uncommon. I was an enlisted Marine before receiving this commission and I can tell you that in the early stages (e.g., bootcamp, etc.), there were a lot of mind games. You might do 18 perfectly legit pullups, but they would find something wrong and only give you 15. Then at the end, when you got 18 or 20, it was an ultimate confidence boost (even though you might have done some "incorrectly" again). It's a process and just keep that in mind.

    I've also enjoyed the comments by Mark and Daniel. I personally am a huge fan of P90X and Insanity. I've used both. In fact, I lost 40 lbs and 10% body fat in 90 days with P90X. I was by no means "fat", but I was certainly "loose" and not as lean when I was in the Corps. Now I'm back to the weight that I was at while in the Marines.

    My point is that do your best, find why works for you, and stick with it. Everyone is different, but keepnyour head held high and try to keep an even perspective. You're doing a great job ank making those around you proud. Thanks again for your posts. Best of luck.


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  • Daniel Ray

    Jul 30, 2010 9:36 AM

    Eric,

    I hope to see you at the 183rd!

    Best,

    Daniel


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  • David Mac

    Aug 2, 2010 11:27 AM

    Sorry you're having a tough go with the PT/Weight standard thing, but you should look at it this way... it was your first one. When I went through basic training probably 75% of the Soldiers failed the first one. Sure we did lots of training after that, but just learning and knowing the standards of the test were pivotal in our future success. We were lucky - we had Drill Sergeants whose entire job was to ensure we were successful. When not doing anything else, we did pushups and situps and flutter kicks and runs. He corrected us on form and we got better. Every PT test in the Army is administered in the exact same way (per FM 21-20), and contrary to your commentary, it isn't subjective. Read the manual and talk to the personnel in your class who have administered the test. It is the nature of the PT test (anywhere you take it) that you may have a hard grader or and easier grader, but the point is you must go into it knowing that no matter how hard the grader, you know the standard and can pass it even when strictly enforced. You didn't get a bad deal or get screwed by a grader... you were out of shape. You might think you're in pretty darn good shape but to be frank, what you think of as 'fitness' doesn't matter any more (your employer says so).

    I understand your frustration with the grading of the PT test and the body-fat/weight. However, I'm not going to play the game of saying the Army's system of measurement is messed up. If you haven't heard it enough already: Officers set the standard and we rely on NCOs to enforce the standard. This applies to anything and everything, including weight and physical training. Whether you are an Infantry Officer, a Logistics Officer or a direct-commission JAG Officer it is up to you to meet the standard. In this case the standard is laid out in FM 21-20, the Army's PT manual. I recommend you read it, chew hard and swallow. Throw a little kool-aid flavor in there if you are having a hard time getting it down. Point is that the standard has been laid out, and at this point in your career you are in no position to rethink or question that standard. You learn it, you meet it (exceed it) and you enforce it. Why? Because the Soldiers you represent are expected to meet that standard. Besides, when you get out of the school house and are on post in your ACUs you look just like any other Captain. You may have not gone through the same pipeline as them, you may not have any combat experience, and you may not be in charge of 130 Soldiers like the Captain in line in front of you at the PX... but to the Private standing behind you in line you look like the same guy. And you know what he thinks of when he sees an Officer who hasn't met the standard? He thinks of how he gets his balls smoked if he fails to meet it. He thinks of how he gets rank/pay/FREEDOM taken away from him (by Officers) if he fails to meet it. See what I'm getting at? The Army literally said "here you go" and gave you a commission - and they have put you in this school to (among other reasons) get you up to par with the rest of your pay-grade. As an Officer, failing to meet (and exceed) the standard is detrimental to the morale and discipline of the rest of the Army.

    Thats the end of my rant. Stay motivated, take a knee and drink water. Keep up the good work and the good blogging... just remember that you are part of something much, much larger than yourself now. No pun intended.


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    • Mark

      Aug 2, 2010 3:50 PM

      Good rant David. :-) I agree with much of what you say. We as officers do have to set high standards. Appearance is extremely important. I agree that you have to learn the standards and be able to adapt. No argument with any of that.

      I do take issue with a few things. First, I haven't seen 1LT Sandys, but I'll go out on a limb and say that a guy who runs two miles in 13:30 looks physically fit, or at a minimum, doesn't "look fat."

      Second, there is absolutely subjectivity when it comes to grading. I experienced it first hand in Basic Training, PLDC, during numerous PT tests, and during Air Assault School. Sometimes, there is nothing you can do about it. I think part of it is some misguided attempt to motivate soldiers. I remember the first time I was tested coming down the wall at Air Assault and received a "no go." My form/technique was perfect IMO. Went up and did it again, doing exactly the same thing, and was a "go."

      Regarding PT tests, not everyone grades the same way. It's sort of like refs. If you played any kind of competitive sport you know not every ref calls the game same way. You do have to adapt, but there is definitely a subjectivity component.

      Third, I completely disagree about the Army's height/weight/bodyfat testing standards/measurements. They are primitive and inaccurate. Anyone who carries more muscle than the average person will be subjected to the absurd monthly tape test. I know them well. :-) The tape test is laughable. All you need is a large neck and not have too big of a belly, and you pass. Simple as that. I have seen fat boys pass the test with lower BF percentages than me, solely because they had big necks.

      None of this means we as officers shouldn't be physically fit, have a physically fit appearance, and/or have to pass whatever tests the Army imposes, however flawed they might be. But I wouldn't hammer anyone who takes issue with some of these things.


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  • David Mac

    Aug 3, 2010 8:58 AM

    Mark,

    By no means am I trying to hammer LT Sandys - sorry if it came across that way. I suppose my tongue has been sharpened more than I thought. I'll reiterate my point... Regardless of subjectivity or an out-dated means of measurement, the standards have been set forth and it is our duty to meet and exceed them. Complaining is part of Soldiering, but so is meeting the standard without excuse... whether you agree with them or not. I know LT Sandys will do this because he is a stand-up guy and a professional (and like you said, he's not far from the standard seeing as how he ran such a good 2 mile). I'm just pointing out that going down the route of "the standards are flawed" misses the point. Direct energy towards improving instead of questioning. There will be times in your career where you should question your orders (respectfully), this is not one of those times.

    Maybe I've just drank the kool-aid a little too much, but two things really stuck with me from my Commissioning Source, OCS. Our motto (and greeting to NCOs and Officers) was "Standards, No Compromise". Additionally, we were required to memorize and recite the following blurb, among many others, when told to.... Its called "Proffer no Excuses".

    "Never volunteer excuses or explain a shortcoming unless an explanation is required. The Army demands results. More damage than good is done by proffering unsought excuses."

    OCS or not, a Soldier should live by this creed. It will also significantly shorten any ass-chewings from higher, because standing at attention after an ass-chewing and not trying to push blame (even where blame can be found) usually results in a quick "get out" rather than a further increase in volume and flame.


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  • Mark

    Aug 3, 2010 5:35 PM

    David I agree we have to meet and exceed the standards, regardless of what they are. My main point is there is nothing wrong with complaining about standards that are outdated and need to be changed. That's partly how we can get some of these things improved. Keeping silent results in decades-old flawed policies.

    I'm not suggesting anyone question orders. That's not how you effect change. I think we need to exceed the standards, whatever they are, and work to improve them.


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  • Eric

    Aug 3, 2010 5:45 PM

    I would just like to add a saying that we used to have in the Marines that is equally applicable, in my opinion, to the Army: "The United States [Army]: Over 200 years of tradition unhampered by progress." But that's what I love about the military. Great discussion, gentlemen. We officers must be constantly aware of each other and the welfare of our men and women.


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